1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,040 on this episode of Expedition X. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,580 Look how steep that is. 3 00:00:04,580 --> 00:00:05,580 Careful. 4 00:00:05,580 --> 00:00:06,580 Oh, my gosh. 5 00:00:06,580 --> 00:00:10,080 Phil and Jess head to the wilds of the Pacific Northwest 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,080 to investigate a paranormal hotspot. 7 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,080 I've heard a disembodied voice of a woman humming. 8 00:00:18,580 --> 00:00:21,460 At the sight of a horrific train tragedy. 9 00:00:21,460 --> 00:00:24,960 Can you imagine you're sitting there in a crowded car 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,000 and then this crushing force on top of it? 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,120 This is essentially, you know, a graveyard. 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,660 I personally think that there were a lot more people killed. 13 00:00:34,660 --> 00:00:36,340 So you're saying there's a bit of a cover up? 14 00:00:36,340 --> 00:00:38,340 Yes. 15 00:00:38,340 --> 00:00:40,880 The truth behind this haunting disaster 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,440 was kept hidden until now. 17 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,720 So you got this footage right on top of the accident site. 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,620 Yeah. 19 00:00:48,620 --> 00:00:50,160 I saw the head right there. 20 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:52,920 We uncover the buried secrets of... 21 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,620 Is that you? 22 00:00:54,620 --> 00:00:55,620 Did you just hear whistling? 23 00:00:55,620 --> 00:00:57,960 Who the f*** is that? 24 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,080 The Avalanche Ghost Train. 25 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,580 My name is Josh Gates. 26 00:01:07,580 --> 00:01:10,580 In my travels, I've experienced strange things 27 00:01:10,580 --> 00:01:14,260 that defy logic and made me question everything. 28 00:01:14,260 --> 00:01:15,960 Oh, my God. 29 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,580 Now, I've put together a team to investigate 30 00:01:18,580 --> 00:01:21,460 the stranger side of the unknown. 31 00:01:21,460 --> 00:01:23,160 Let's go. 32 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,500 Phil Torres is a scientist who hunts 33 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:27,500 for rational explanations. 34 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:29,960 Jessica Chobot's paranormal research 35 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:32,460 has made her a true believer. 36 00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:34,460 If you're here with us, knock again. 37 00:01:34,460 --> 00:01:36,960 Together, we're searching for answers... 38 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:38,460 What is happening here, Jess? 39 00:01:38,460 --> 00:01:41,960 ...to the world's most extraordinary mysteries. 40 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:44,960 This is Expedition X. 41 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,960 All right, Jess, Phil, what was the last time 42 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,960 the two of you took a trip by train? 43 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,960 I took a lovely trip on a bullet train. 44 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,960 I took a lovely trip on a bullet train 45 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,960 a few years back in Japan. 46 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:01,960 Yeah, I took a sleeper car across Europe. 47 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,960 A few summers back, nothing like falling asleep 48 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:04,960 to the rumble of a train. 49 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:05,960 Both of those sound lovely. 50 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,960 Now imagine it's the dead of winter 51 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,960 and a blizzard rolls in. 52 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,960 Your train gets stuck, snow is piling up 53 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,960 past the windows, and you are trapped for days. 54 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,960 Food is running low, there is no heat, 55 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,960 no power, and then it gets worse. 56 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:21,960 No Wi-Fi. 57 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,960 That does sound like your nightmare, Jess. 58 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:24,960 This is a real nightmare. 59 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,960 This is actually a true story, 60 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,960 and it goes down as one of the deadliest train disasters 61 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,960 in American history. 62 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,960 And some say that even now, a century later, 63 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,960 the ghosts of that tragedy still haunt 64 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,960 the mountains of the Pacific Northwest. 65 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,960 February 22, 1910. 66 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,960 Winding through the Cascade Mountains, 67 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,960 the great northern railway passenger train number 25 68 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,960 is on an east-west journey from Spokane to Seattle. 69 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,960 Aboard are 55 passengers, 70 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,960 from commuting businessmen to vacationing families. 71 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,960 They expect an uneventful overnight journey, 72 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,960 but fate makes the tiny town of Wellington 73 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,960 their final stop. 74 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,960 Snow begins falling at up to a foot per hour, 75 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,960 burying the tracks under 20-foot-high drifts. 76 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Snow plows fail, and the train can't move. 77 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,960 Days pass, and anxious passengers are running low on food 78 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,960 and coal to heat the train cars. 79 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,960 A few trek nearly four miles through stormy weather 80 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,960 and deep snow drifts to the next outpost. 81 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,960 But most have to stay put on the stranded train, 82 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,960 unable to make the treacherous hike. 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,960 Six days after the train stalled, 84 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,960 the snow turns to rain. 85 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,960 Everyone celebrates, believing that soon 86 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,960 they'll be on their way again. 87 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,960 But Mother Nature has other plans. 88 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,960 On March 1st, around 1.30 a.m., 89 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,960 lightning flashes, thunder cracks. 90 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,960 Suddenly, a slab of ice more than a quarter-mile-wide 91 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,960 roars down the mountainside, 92 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,960 turning rocks and trees into high-speed projectiles 93 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,960 that slam into the helpless train, 94 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,960 hurling it more than 150 feet into the ravine below. 95 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,960 It's a mangled heap of metal, ice, splintered trees, 96 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,960 and human bodies. 97 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,960 Rescue crews manage to pull 23 people to safety, 98 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,960 but the rest are dead. 99 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,960 The final body isn't recovered until the end of July. 100 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,960 The official death toll is 96. 101 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,960 The Wellington disaster remains the deadliest avalanche 102 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,960 in U.S. history. 103 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,960 Now, over a century later, 104 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,960 hikers are reporting paranormal activity 105 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,960 around the accident site. 106 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,960 People claim to hear ghostly voices, laughter, 107 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:01,960 strange humming and singing, 108 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,960 and an eerie, unsettling feeling that overtakes them. 109 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,960 One man captured on camera what appears to be an apparition. 110 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,960 Reports of unexplained phenomena around the abandoned tracks 111 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,960 have escalated over the past few months, 112 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,960 so the time to investigate is now, 113 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,960 before snow covers the evidence again. 114 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,960 So what do you think? 115 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,960 So much trauma and death concentrated in one location. 116 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,960 I think it's got to be haunted. 117 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,960 I really want to talk to the guy that caught that ghostly voice 118 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:41,960 on camera. 119 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,960 Phil, what do you make of the video? 120 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,960 There are some plausible explanations for what he caught on tape. 121 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,960 It could be atmospheric conditions, 122 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,960 it could be an animal, it could be a trick to light. 123 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,960 Yeah, but the witness also said that he heard voices 124 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,960 at the disaster site, and other people have reported that too, 125 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,960 so this video is not an isolated incident. 126 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,960 But it's also a windy place. 127 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Wind can make strange sounds, and so can wildlife. 128 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,960 So the two of you have got to get up there and check this out. 129 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,960 You're going to be the first team on TV to ever investigate 130 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,960 the wreck and the paranormal claims surrounding it. 131 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,960 That's kind of awesome. 132 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,960 All right, get ready to see a ghost. 133 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Well, it sounds like the two of you are all aboard. 134 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,960 I'm sorry. 135 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Just going to let that one wash over me. 136 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Please do. 137 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Phil and Jess fly 2,200 miles from New York to Spokane, Washington. 138 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,960 From there, it's a four-hour drive west into the Cascade Mountains. 139 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:40,960 Gorgeous. 140 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,960 This is one of my favorite patches of wilderness in all the US. 141 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,960 I come here every single spring, 142 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,960 and yet I've never heard this story about the train. 143 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Look at this sh**. 144 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,960 Is this logging? 145 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,960 All of these downed trees, this is not logging. 146 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,960 This is wreckage from an avalanche. 147 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,960 What? 148 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:01,960 Whoa. 149 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Are you kidding me? 150 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,960 Look at that. 151 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,960 I mean, this is recent. 152 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Oh, my God. 153 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Wow. 154 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,960 That's incredible. 155 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,960 There's snow. 156 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Ooh, that is just packed. 157 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Not cool, Jess. 158 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Oh, come on. 159 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:27,960 Have some fun. 160 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,960 I mean, that is like concrete, though. 161 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,960 You would never survive getting hit by something like that. 162 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Yeah. 163 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,960 If you think about all the snowpack that happens here, 164 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,960 they say in this area of Washington, 165 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,960 they could get up to 25 feet. 166 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,960 Yeah. 167 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,960 All gets compressed, turns into this giant ice cube, 168 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:43,960 just rushing down. 169 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Look at what it did. 170 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Look how thick that tree is. 171 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,960 Avalanches occur when wind, rain, or human activity 172 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,960 causes a layer of snow to suddenly fracture 173 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,960 and detach from a mountain slope, 174 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,960 sending thousands of tons of snow 175 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,960 hurtling down at speeds of up to 200 miles per hour. 176 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,960 Anyone below, like those trapped on the Great Northern train, 177 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,960 would have only seconds to try to escape. 178 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,960 Man, you can see, like, the trees, how they're flattened 179 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,960 and bent like that. 180 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:12,960 Yeah. 181 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Man. 182 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,960 Jess and Phil continue to Sky Comish, 183 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,960 which would have been one of the next stops 184 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,960 on the train's ill-fated journey. 185 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,960 There, I've arranged for them to meet someone 186 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,960 who has a very personal connection to the tragedy. 187 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Sheila Hagar is a local reporter 188 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,960 and a descendant of one of the Avalanche victims. 189 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,960 What kind of sparked your desire to find out more 190 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,960 about your great grandmother's involvement 191 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,960 in the Wellington Avalanche? 192 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,960 Just typed my grandfather's name into Google, 193 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,960 and I come across this little tidbit about Sarah Jane Covington, 194 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,960 and I'm just stunned. 195 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,960 69-year-old Sarah Covington was in Spokane, 196 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,960 caring for her sick son, 197 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,960 and was traveling alone back to Seattle when the Avalanche hit. 198 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:03,960 She never made it home to celebrate her 51st wedding anniversary. 199 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,960 So nobody in the family ever talked about this? 200 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:07,960 Not to me. 201 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,960 Not many people at all knew that this 1910 Avalanche had occurred. 202 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,960 When I wrote about it, people had no idea. 203 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,960 I think the railroad company did their very best 204 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,960 to make sure it was forgotten. 205 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,960 For them, this was a terrible PR issue. 206 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,960 If people were afraid to go on that train, 207 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,960 they weren't going to have customers. 208 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,960 Josh had mentioned that you would actually come across 209 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,960 some of your great-great-grandmothers 210 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,960 writing from when she was on the train. 211 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:37,960 Yes. 212 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,960 I don't know whether it was on her body when they found it 213 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,960 or possibly in her luggage. 214 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,960 What was going on inside that train? 215 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Let me show you. 216 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,960 She's not very worried when the train actually gets snowbound. 217 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,960 February 27, 1910. 218 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,960 My dear husband and children, 219 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,960 I with a hundred or so are snowbound here. 220 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:06,960 She does talk about how one young man was able to play music. 221 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,960 He had a horn, but that people were very blue. 222 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,960 Why did number play cards and drink? 223 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,960 Talk slang and any old thing. 224 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,960 We have no water and very little fuel. 225 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,960 I am trusting in God to save us. 226 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,960 Some are in deadly fear that a landslide will come down on us. 227 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,960 Can we get a copy of some of these documents? 228 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,960 You guys can take all of this. 229 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Awesome. 230 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:32,960 And pursue. 231 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:33,960 All of this. 232 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,960 What else do we have in here? 233 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:35,960 Victims list. 234 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,960 This is very helpful. 235 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,960 It's a great place to start. 236 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:39,960 Yeah. 237 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,960 Now that we have more information about who was on the train, 238 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,960 we need to investigate the actual site of the disaster. 239 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,960 It's a half-hour drive east to where the accident happened 240 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,960 and the old train route. 241 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,960 Then it's a hike up to the site. 242 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,960 I'm curious to connect with whatever spirits may be lingering here. 243 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,960 Josh has arranged for us to meet Bert Coates. 244 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,960 A graphic designer, he has lived in the area for 40 years 245 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,960 and spends most of his weekends hiking and camping in the mountains. 246 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:14,960 One night around the disaster site, he captured an eerie figure on camera. 247 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,960 So you had an experience around here? 248 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,960 I didn't. 249 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,960 I hiked up here and I had heard a disembodied voice 250 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,960 of a woman that just started humming. 251 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,960 And then she started singing, 252 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,960 but she couldn't make out the words of what she was singing. 253 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Did you recognize the song at all? 254 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:40,960 No, not at all. 255 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,960 Did you know the history of this place before telling her? 256 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,960 Not until after I went back home after the hike, 257 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,960 I started looking at the history of Wellington. 258 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,960 So essentially you had your first experience here 259 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,960 and it sounds like you kept coming back at night 260 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,960 to try to figure out what was happening. 261 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,960 So the video, can you show us what happened? 262 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:57,960 Absolutely. 263 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,960 Alright. 264 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,960 Bert takes us down the trail to the snow shed. 265 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,960 A massive half-mile long concrete structure 266 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,960 built after the avalanche to shield the tracks from future disasters. 267 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,960 I definitely recognize these pillars from your video. 268 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:14,960 Yeah. 269 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,960 I hiked in the snow shed, started having problems with the camera. 270 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,960 The batteries just started draining, 271 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,960 so I stepped off to the side with the camera 272 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,960 and that wasn't paying attention to what I was filming 273 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,960 when I captured the image. 274 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,960 And so then you were recording down in this direction? 275 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,960 Yep, I was recording right at that angle. 276 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,960 Which pillar would it be? 277 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,960 I saw the head right there. 278 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:38,960 So it's here, right? 279 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:39,960 Yes. 280 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:40,960 Okay. 281 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,960 There are a lot of deer tracks over here. 282 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,960 There are. 283 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,960 But even I will quickly admit that looked nothing like a deer. 284 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,960 That looked like a person's head and shoulders. 285 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,960 I think Bert captured a lost soul from the train disaster. 286 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,960 This area is where the trains would have been. 287 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:58,960 Yes. 288 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,960 I think what he caught on camera was a glimpse of an animal. 289 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,960 And what he's heard, including the humming and singing, 290 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,960 might simply be the sounds of birds echoing through the snow shed. 291 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,960 So you got this footage essentially right on top of the accident site? 292 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,960 Pretty much, yeah. 293 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,960 The debris fields down this direction over here. 294 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Ooh, okay. 295 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:23,960 Right down there. 296 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:24,960 So it's over this ledge. 297 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:25,960 What else is down there? 298 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,960 Right, you have Tye River and then you'll see a bunch of debris. 299 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,960 Well, Jess, I think we should try to get down to the debris field 300 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,960 and do that before it gets dark. 301 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:34,960 Yeah, thanks. 302 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,960 Good luck. 303 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:36,960 See ya. 304 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:37,960 See you later. 305 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,960 We're going to have to get to the crash site the same way the train went, 306 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,960 all the way down this cliff. 307 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,960 Oh, that is steep. 308 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:46,960 Do you have your gear? 309 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,960 I got my gear. 310 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,960 Yeah. 311 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:49,960 So what, rope off to one of these trees? 312 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,960 Rope off to a tree and let's shimmy down. 313 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:00,960 You first. 314 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:01,960 Yeah. 315 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:09,960 Okay. 316 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,960 All right, I think we're getting close. 317 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,960 You think that's going to, that's not enough line? 318 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,960 We'll see how far we can go. 319 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:18,960 Get ready? 320 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:19,960 Yeah. 321 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,960 Whoa! 322 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,960 Oh, you all right? 323 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:26,960 I'm good. 324 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:27,960 You okay? 325 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:28,960 Yeah. 326 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:29,960 I'm good. 327 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:30,960 Careful, careful. 328 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,960 We got a rock slide here. 329 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,960 Look at this. 330 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,960 Oh my God. 331 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,960 Careful, careful. 332 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,960 We got a rock slide here. 333 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,960 Look at this. 334 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,960 Oh my God. 335 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,960 Solid steel. 336 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,960 Completely collapsed in. 337 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:53,960 Got smashed. 338 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:54,960 The rivets all popped out. 339 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Can you imagine? 340 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,960 You're sitting there in a crowded car. 341 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Desperate for days. 342 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,960 And then this crushing car. 343 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:02,960 Desperate for days. 344 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,960 And then this crushing force on top of it. 345 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,960 It took them months to find all the bodies. 346 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,960 Months because of the conditions. 347 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,960 Let's just keep that in mind while we're exploring. 348 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,960 Let's remember that a lot of people passed away here. 349 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,960 I mean, this is essentially, you know, a graveyard. 350 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,960 Okay. 351 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Lots of debris over here. 352 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,960 Roots of this tree are growing right through, right over. 353 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,960 This big piece of iron metal right here. 354 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 It's just amazing to think that this force has basically been 355 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,960 growing back over the top of this wreckage for over 100 years. 356 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:35,960 Alright, let me just take a picture. 357 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,960 As I'm standing on top of the wreckage where 96 people lost their lives, 358 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,960 I'm suddenly struck with a heavy, uneasy feeling. 359 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,960 There's probably a lot of train underneath where we can't even see it. 360 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:54,960 I mean, it's a miracle that they found Sarah's diary in this debris field. 361 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Some believe spirits will remain in the spot where their life ended. 362 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,960 So the words from Sarah's journal and letters may help me reach out to her 363 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,960 or the other avalanche victims. 364 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:11,960 I'm going to use Sarah's letters to do a bit of a call and response with this recorder. 365 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,960 It's voice activated, so it'll record if anybody answers. 366 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Okay. You recording? 367 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,960 Yeah, I'm recording. 368 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,960 Sarah, if you're with us, feel free to reach out and speak with us. 369 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,960 February 23rd. 370 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,960 We are snowed in at the mouth of the tunnel, 20 minutes of 11 a.m. 371 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,960 I just got up from my bed. 372 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,960 The mountains are beautiful and we are all resting easy. 373 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,960 They say we may be here all day. 374 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,960 The cars are warm and very nice. 375 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:41,960 Let's review it. 376 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,960 February 23rd. 377 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,960 We are snowed in at the mouth of the tunnel, 20 minutes of 11 a.m. 378 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,960 I just got up from my bed. 379 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,960 The mountains are beautiful and we are all resting easy. 380 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:54,960 They say we may be here all day. 381 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Okay, this is really weird. 382 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,960 Why is it skipping? 383 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,960 It's supposed to run when it hears somebody talking. 384 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,960 So why was it continuously getting interrupted? 385 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Well, two options here. 386 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,960 One, it sucks at its job. 387 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,960 Or two, there's some kind of interference. 388 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,960 There's definitely a heavy vibe in the area. 389 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,960 What I've been struck with is we've been to so many tragic places. 390 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,960 I've never been to a place like this. 391 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Like, it just is depressing, really heavy. 392 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,960 Yeah. 393 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,960 I think it's the tech, but also, like, yes, we're just getting started here. 394 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,960 Who knows what we're going to find? 395 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,960 With daylight fading fast, we make the tough climb back uphill to the snow shed. 396 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,960 Once it's dark, we'll be able to better investigate Bert's video. 397 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Phil thinks it may have been an animal, 398 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,960 but I think Bert may have captured an image of a lost spirit from the train disaster. 399 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,960 What if we set up a camera to just record this area? 400 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:01,960 Okay. 401 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,960 We aim a camera towards the pillar and I set up a REM pod, 402 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,960 which will alert us to any electromagnetic disturbances 403 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,960 from a paranormal presence. 404 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,960 Okay, REM pods up. 405 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:17,960 All right, so then I'm going to stay here. 406 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,960 Okay. 407 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:19,960 Do a little call and response. 408 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,960 That's your territory. 409 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,960 I know I'm going to try to set up some trailcams around here 410 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,960 to get an idea of what wildlife do pass through this corridor. 411 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,960 I think animals might be the real source of the sights and sounds people are reporting. 412 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:34,960 Okay, good luck out here. 413 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,960 Thanks, you too. 414 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Right here, guys. 415 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,960 I think I found a rod up. 416 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,960 I'm going to inspect the rest of the snow shed, 417 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,960 top to bottom, looking for signs of wildlife. 418 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:46,960 Watch your step here. 419 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,960 We definitely got to tread lightly around here 420 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,960 because this is an old concrete structure. 421 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,960 We definitely saw parts of it that were caved in when we were down below 422 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,960 and we got this ledge that if you fall off, that's where you're going to be. 423 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,960 We're going to be able to see the whole structure 424 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,960 and then we're going to be able to see the whole structure 425 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,960 and then we're going to be able to see the whole structure 426 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,960 and if you fall off, that's a good 30-foot drop. 427 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,960 So, we'll be careful. 428 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,960 Since our other device was giving us problems, 429 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,960 I'm going to switch to our 360 recorder, 430 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,960 an ultra-sensitive mic that will pick up sounds from all directions. 431 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,960 Record. 432 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,960 If anyone responds, we'll capture it. 433 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,960 So the plan is that I'm going to go ahead and set this 434 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,960 so that we can do a call and response. 435 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,960 I've got Sarah's letters. 436 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,960 I have the list of victims of the avalanche. 437 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,960 All right, we're good to go. 438 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Is there anyone here in the tunnel with us? 439 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,960 What happened the night of the avalanche? 440 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Sarah, were you disappointed that you weren't able to send off 441 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,960 your final letters to your family? 442 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,960 I'm sorry. 443 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,960 All right. 444 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,960 I've seen very little evidence of any animal activity. 445 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,960 So, I'm going to head back down, 446 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,960 set a game cam right in the pathway 447 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,960 where Burt reported some unusual activity. 448 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,960 Is there anybody here with us? 449 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,960 Sarah, just so you know, those letters did make it 450 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,960 to your great-great-granddaughter, Sheila. 451 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,960 Are you standing over by the pillar? 452 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Are you standing over by the pillar? 453 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,960 Was that a whistle? 454 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,960 I heard it too. 455 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:04,960 I'm loving this spot right here because there are footprints 456 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,960 all over the place, which means this gets a lot 457 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,960 of wildlife traffic, which means I'm going to set up 458 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,960 my trail cam right here. 459 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,960 Hello? Is there anyone here? 460 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,960 Is that you? Did you just hear whistling? 461 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,960 Oh, f***, I'm here. 462 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Is there anyone here? 463 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,960 Is that you? Did you just hear whistling? 464 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,960 Hey, Phil, were you guys just whistling? 465 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,960 I heard that too. What was that? 466 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,960 A logical explanation might be some kind of bird. 467 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,960 Several species, like chickadees or swallows, 468 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960 do live here and have shrilled sheriffs. 469 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,960 But the sound we heard was a single sustained note, 470 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,960 not a warbling bird song. 471 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,960 And most songbirds aren't nocturnal, 472 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,960 so we'll see what our trail cams captured. 473 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,960 I heard, like, someone with a whistle right next to my ear. 474 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,960 That is really weird. 475 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,960 Definitely sounded like it came from your direction. 476 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,960 Let's meet back up. Let's figure out where we're at with this thing. 477 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,960 Copy. 478 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,960 The whistling sound could also be a mixture of something entirely natural 479 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,960 and something man-made. 480 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,960 In 2020, people noticed high-pitched howling noises 481 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,960 across San Francisco. 482 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,960 An investigation determined the sound was wind-blowing 483 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,960 through the slats of a newly retrofitted sidewalk railing 484 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960 of the Golden Gate Bridge. 485 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,960 It's possible that wind-blowing through these pillars 486 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,960 might also create some odd sounds. 487 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,960 I've got something in my kit that I can use to put this idea to the test. 488 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,960 Smoke bomb. That's cool. 489 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,960 We'll be able to see where the wind goes 490 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,960 if it weaves around some of these pillars. 491 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,960 And that kind of helps us visualize what the sound could be doing too 492 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,960 to get distorted through here. 493 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,960 Are you ready for this, Jess? Yeah. 494 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,960 Okay. 495 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,960 Let's go. 496 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,960 It's barely going past these pillars. 497 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,960 Mm-hmm. 498 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,960 So it's really just a straight shot down. 499 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,960 I was hoping to see some gusts coming through. 500 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,960 Some vortices. 501 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,960 Absolutely nothing. 502 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,960 I mean, it doesn't seem breezy enough to make any whistling noises. 503 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,960 Wind didn't cause the whistling sound we heard tonight. 504 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,960 So what did? 505 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,960 That whistle was definitely a response from someone. 506 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,960 One thing that's certain, this place is really unsettling. 507 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,960 Even Phil seems to feel it. 508 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,960 We have a camera that's going to pick up whatever walks around here. 509 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,960 So I say we call it a night because this place is creepy. 510 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,960 That's creepy. I want to get out of here. 511 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,960 But why? It's just animals, Phil. 512 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,960 Don't worry about it. 513 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,960 All those animals could be a mountain lion. 514 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,960 That would suck, yes. 515 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,960 I've been thinking about possible explanations for what's going on around here, 516 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,960 and I want to run a theory past Josh. 517 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,960 Hey, you two. Good job. 518 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,960 Hey, Josh. I'm eager to hear how it's going out there. 519 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Jess, were you able to make contact with the spirits of the train passengers? 520 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,960 I'm not sure yet. 521 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,960 I reached out and I got some strange responses. 522 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,960 A whistle. 523 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,960 What? Like a train whistle or like a person whistling? 524 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,960 More like a whistle you'd blow. Listen to this. 525 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,960 So did train conductors carry whistles? 526 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,960 You know that actually does sound kind of like those old time conductor whistles, right? 527 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,960 The ones they would wear around their necks. 528 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,960 And there were something like 60 crew members who died in that disaster. 529 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,960 I feel like I need to learn more about the crew. 530 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,960 Phil, you thought the wind could have been making the noises that people were hearing out there. 531 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960 And what do you think now? Could that have been what caused the whistling? 532 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,960 Well, there was no wind that night, so I don't know what made that whistle. 533 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,960 I think we should analyze it against the sounds of any known animals when we get back. 534 00:25:53,960 --> 00:26:00,960 The other odd thing is we all felt kind of just off, like a little nauseous and very uncomfortable. 535 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,960 And we read that about this place, right? 536 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,960 That some of the witnesses have noted feeling this unease and sense of dread there. 537 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,960 Well, Wellington's not at a high enough elevation for something like altitude sickness. 538 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,960 I've felt that before. This was something else. 539 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:20,960 Pretty much everybody last night felt weird, experienced strange feelings. 540 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,960 Yes, we were at a place where a lot of people died, but I'm also wondering if there could be something else going on here. 541 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,960 And that would be a sound that we can't actually hear. 542 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,960 What do you mean a sound we can't hear? You mean like, like infrasound or something? 543 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,960 Exactly. 544 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,960 So that's an interesting idea, right? I mean, there are these frequencies that we can't actually hear with our ears, 545 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,960 but scientists do suspect that they can impact how we feel. 546 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,960 They can make people feel uneasy or scared. 547 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,960 It's even been suggested that those sort of frequencies could be what makes a place seem haunted. 548 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,960 Okay, well, if that's the case, then where would the infrasound even come from? 549 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,960 I guess that's the question. It's known to come from seismic activity. It can come from traffic. 550 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,960 There's a lot of different sources out there, but I do wonder if it's railroad connected. 551 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,960 Ooh, you hear that train right now? 552 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,960 I do. 553 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,960 Gosh, I'm not sure if you can hear right now, but there is a train going by somewhere in the distance. 554 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:20,960 It's still an active railroad area, which actually could lead into the infrasound theory that maybe could be a train passing by. 555 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,960 That's a cool theory, Phil. I would love to have you test it out. 556 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,960 And Jess, if you think the site is potentially haunted, not just by passengers, but maybe by the crew, 557 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,960 I have located someone who you absolutely have to meet. 558 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:38,960 I found this railway historian who has extensively researched this incident and the people involved. 559 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,960 Great. Send us the info. We'll go meet him. 560 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,960 Great. 561 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,960 Sweet. 562 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,960 We'll meet up with him. 563 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Bye, Josh. 564 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,960 See you later. 565 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,960 I'm sending Phil and Jess to meet Kevin Wiederstrom, a retired Boeing mechanic. 566 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,960 He now maintains the historic Sky-Komish Depot. 567 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,960 He's had a lifelong fascination with the story of the Wellington train disaster. 568 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,960 He thinks there's more to the story than anyone has heard. 569 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,960 They tried to keep the death toll down. 570 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,960 I personally think that there were a lot more people killed. 571 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,960 So you're saying there's a bit of a cover-up? 572 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,960 Yes. 573 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,960 So you're saying there's a bit of a cover-up? 574 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,960 Yes. 575 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,960 More people than 96 died? 576 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,960 Yes, probably up to 150. 577 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,960 A lot of people were transient workers. 578 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,960 They'd work a couple days and then leave. 579 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,960 So there was nothing officially documenting saying they were there? 580 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,960 Not at all. 581 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Wow. 582 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960 They tried to keep the death toll down because people get scared. 583 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,960 It was a psychological thing as well as a thing for the railroad to keep in business. 584 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,960 How were they able to get all of the bodies out of there? 585 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,960 Well, it took weeks. 586 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,960 They were taking the bodies. 587 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:57,960 They put them on toboggan and went them all the way to Windy Point down to Deadman's Slight by rope. 588 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,960 It's 800 to 1,000 feet down the side of the mountain. 589 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,960 And right down here at Scenic, that's where they went. 590 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,960 Obviously, the old train routes no longer in use. 591 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,960 Right. 592 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,960 But there's still a train that goes through here. 593 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,960 I mean, we saw train tracks right outside. 594 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,960 Right. 595 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,960 So does it pass by this area? 596 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,960 It is below it, about 1,000 feet below it. 597 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,960 Considering the strange whistle we heard last night, 598 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,960 I wonder about the conductor on the doomed train. 599 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,960 Could the sound be his signal from the other side? 600 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,960 So I want to know about the conductor. 601 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,960 What's his story? 602 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Pettit. 603 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,960 Kevin tells us that Joseph Pettit was one of the handful of people who left the train 604 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,960 and hiked nearly four miles to safety. 605 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,960 But with passengers stranded on his train, the conductor didn't just walk away. 606 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,960 He was trying to get help. 607 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,960 But he made his way back to the train. 608 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,960 And unfortunately, he was killed in the avalanche. 609 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,960 But that's beyond just doing your duty. 610 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,960 I mean, he climbed a mountain for these people and then died in the avalanche. 611 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:00,960 Died in the avalanche. 612 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,960 That is tragic. 613 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,960 You can't. 614 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,960 Yeah. 615 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,960 Armed with new information about where and who to investigate, 616 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,960 we head back to the site of the disaster, the snow shed. 617 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,960 I think infrasound waves coming from trains on the new set of tracks 618 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,960 could be causing strange sensations that people might mistake for paranormal activity 619 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,960 at the avalanche site. 620 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,960 So check this thing out. 621 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,960 Yeah, what is that? 622 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,960 This is a special microphone. 623 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,960 Oh. 624 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,960 That can hear super high frequency and super low frequencies. 625 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,960 Anything 20 and above? 626 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,960 Uh-huh. 627 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,960 We can hear. 628 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,960 Got it. 629 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,960 But once it gets too low, that becomes infrasound and that's really what I'm interested in. 630 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,960 I see. 631 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,960 Okay, gotcha. 632 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,960 So we can hear infrasound and communicate through infrasound, 633 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,960 but we can't hear it. 634 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,960 But the theory is, and it's even been proven in a lab, 635 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,960 that it can make people feel weird, certain frequencies can vibrate your eyeballs 636 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,960 and make you almost see things. 637 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,960 That's kind of cool. 638 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,960 I know. 639 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,960 So we've got this one set here. 640 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,960 Uh-huh. 641 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,960 What I need to test is if when a train goes by at Windy Point, 642 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:11,960 is that sound strong enough to essentially pass through a mountain and hit here? 643 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,960 Uh-huh. 644 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,960 So if we get a really big spike, this thing is connected to my phone 645 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,960 and it'll send me a message. 646 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,960 So potentially what happens over there could be correlated with what happens over here. 647 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960 We got ourselves a long hike ahead. 648 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,960 Oh, yes we do. 649 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,960 These were conductor, pettits, last steps, 650 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,960 and the route used by rescuers to recover dozens of bodies. 651 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,960 Wow. 652 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,960 I'm getting tired. 653 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,960 I'm getting tired too. 654 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,960 This is a long way of walking, not through overhead height snow. 655 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,960 Yeah. 656 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,960 And not carrying a body behind you. 657 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,960 And not worrying about an avalanche falling on top of you. 658 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,960 Yeah. 659 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,960 You feel that cold air? 660 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,960 Yeah. 661 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,960 Ooh. 662 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,960 Man, all the way from here you can feel that. 663 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,960 Oh, how cool is this? 664 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,960 Ooh, that is a huge tunnel. 665 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,960 Look at the size of this thing. 666 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,960 Wow. 667 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,960 All right. 668 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,960 I mean, that gets super dark. 669 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,960 You want to bust out the flashlights? 670 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,960 Yeah, flashlights. 671 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,960 At the far end of this, that's where the dead man's slide is, 672 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,960 where all the survivors went and where all the dead bodies went down. 673 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,960 Exactly. 674 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:36,960 So I think while we have some daylight, we should try to book it to the far end. 675 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,960 This is, um... 676 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,960 This is creepy. 677 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,960 Spooky. 678 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,960 Spooky. 679 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,960 Ooh, we got a cave in up here. 680 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,960 Yeah. 681 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,960 So really the only thing protecting us are old wooden beams from the original tunnel. 682 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,960 It's comforting. 683 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,960 That's something, yeah. 684 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,960 Excellent. 685 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,960 Great. 686 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,960 Perfect. 687 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,960 Cool. 688 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,960 Let's keep walking. 689 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,960 This tunnel is a quarter mile long and pitch black. 690 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,960 There is a definite chill in the air, and I'm not convinced it's just the temperature. 691 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,960 This thing is quite the piece of engineering. 692 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,960 Oh, yeah. 693 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,960 It's kind of scary. 694 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,960 Which means right down here, this should be... 695 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,960 Dead man's slide? 696 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,960 Dead man's slide. 697 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,960 This is insane. 698 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,960 So this is it? 699 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,960 This is it. 700 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Look how steep that is. 701 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,960 Let me see. 702 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,960 Careful. 703 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,960 Oh, my gosh, Phil. 704 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,960 I am uncomfortable with you doing that. 705 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,960 Wow. 706 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,960 Oh, yeah. 707 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960 That is so steep. 708 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,960 Go far down. 709 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:43,960 Imagine trying to transport bodies in the winter down this. 710 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960 This is about, what, a thousand foot elevation drop? 711 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,960 And imagine the conductor petted. 712 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,960 Yeah. 713 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,960 He was stuck back there on a blizzard. 714 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,960 Would have to get here, get all the way down the mountain, ask for help, climb all the way back up, 715 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,960 and then miles back to the train only to be killed in an avalanche. 716 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,960 Yep. 717 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,960 That is some heroic effort with the tragic ending. 718 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,960 Yeah, that is rough. 719 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,960 All right, well, let's just set up for the investigation. 720 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960 All right, yeah, as soon as we get going, the better. 721 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,960 Mm-hmm. 722 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,960 All right, just somewhere down in that valley is a modern train. 723 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,960 Yeah. 724 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,960 So I'm going to go down the trail on the outside of the tunnel 725 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,960 and see if I can get a good eye line on it. 726 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,960 Okay, I'm going to go back inside the tunnel. 727 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,960 I want to try and check for any paranormal activity 728 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,960 and see if it matches up with what you're finding on your end, 729 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,960 because if it does, then maybe your theory is correct, 730 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,960 and if it doesn't, then maybe my theory is correct, and it might be haunted. 731 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,960 I'll take that wager. 732 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,960 All right, so you got your walking on you? 733 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,960 Sure do. 734 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,960 Look at that. 735 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,960 Right there. 736 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,960 Wow. 737 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,960 Active train track, way closer than I thought it was going to be. 738 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,960 And there's the tunnel. 739 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,960 This is right next to the old track, just 1,000 people low. 740 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,960 Okay, this is going to be good. 741 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,960 I head back towards the entrance to the tunnel 742 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,960 and set up for a call and response session. 743 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,960 All right, this seems to be a good spot. 744 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,960 I'm going to reach out to conductor Pettit, 745 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,960 or any of the other lost souls whose bodies were transported through here. 746 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,960 All right. 747 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:25,960 Is there anybody here with us? 748 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:34,960 Were you one of the passengers on the train that was hit by the avalanche in 1910? 749 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,960 Conductor Pettit, can you hear me? 750 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,960 All I have to do here is wait for the train to arrive. 751 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,960 All I have to do here is wait for a train. 752 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,960 I'm expecting that seconds after a train rumbles through, 753 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,960 we'll get a notification from the meter back at the avalanche site, 754 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,960 saying that it's picking up in percent. 755 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,960 Did you work for the railroad? 756 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,960 Are you angry that the railroad company tried to cover up so many deaths? 757 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,960 Joseph Pettit, is that you? 758 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,960 Oh, f***! 759 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,960 Oh, f***! 760 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,960 That was weird. 761 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,960 The 1910 Wellington avalanche compelled researchers to figure out ways to prevent future disasters. 762 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,960 One method is to set up snow fences, which can help control accumulation on the slopes. 763 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,960 Another way, explosives. 764 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:56,960 Intentionally using detonations to fracture the snowpack and trigger controlled slides, 765 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,960 reducing the risk of unpredictable ones. 766 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:05,960 That's done either by shooting the mountainside with live artillery rounds, 767 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,960 or dropping charges from a helicopter, 768 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,960 or even having a very brave ski patrol place explosives by hand, 769 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,960 which I have to admit looks like a total blast. 770 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,960 Oh, f***! 771 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,960 Oh, f***! 772 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,960 That was weird. 773 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,960 The bizarre, nauseated feeling that we had at the crash site is back. 774 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,960 Phil, do you copy? 775 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,960 Yo, what's up? 776 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960 I had that queasy feeling again. 777 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,960 It was so weird. 778 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,960 I actually had to take the headphones off. 779 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,960 Are you getting any readings on your meter just now? 780 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,960 Do you see any trains coming through? 781 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,960 Stand by. 782 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,960 Okay, you see that light? Right there, right there. There's the train. 783 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,960 You hear that rumble? 784 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,960 We got a hit! 785 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,960 Yes, yes, you there? 786 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,960 Yeah, copy. 787 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,960 Jess, we just got the first hit from the infrasound meter. 788 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,960 Miles away at the Avalanche crash site. 789 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,960 I'm going to come your way because I got my results I was looking for, 790 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,960 so I want to see what was happening on your end. 791 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,960 Okay, I'll pack up and meet you. 792 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,960 All right, coming in, coming in. 793 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,960 Wow, we got a major, like, huge spike on the infrasound team 794 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,960 back at the Avalanche site. 795 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,960 You combine that with the tragic history, 796 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,960 I think there's a chance that some of the paranormal experiences 797 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,960 that could be explained by that combination. 798 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,960 The REM pod went off in the tunnel right before the train arrived, 799 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,960 but that device doesn't react to infrasound. 800 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,960 Maybe the train is acting as some sort of trigger 801 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,960 for the ghosts of the Avalanche victims, you know? 802 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:16,960 I heard whistling next to my ear when we were over at the actual crash site. 803 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,960 That was an infrasound. 804 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,960 The mind can play a lot of tricks on you when you want to hear what you want to hear. 805 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,960 I'd be interested in analyzing the audio that you got 806 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,960 just to see if we can pick it apart better and figure out what that actual noise was. 807 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,960 When Phil and Jess returned from Washington, 808 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,960 we isolated the whistle sound from our footage. 809 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,960 We compared it to the vocalizations of birds and mammals known to live in the region. 810 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,960 The whistle sound doesn't match up with any of them. 811 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,960 Our cameras did capture various animals around the snow shed, 812 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,960 but none of them seemed consistent with the ghostly figure caught on video. 813 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,960 We analyzed the audio of Jess's call and response at the snow shed and at the tunnel. 814 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,960 Is there anyone here in the tunnel with us? 815 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,960 And there were a few strange sounds, 816 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,960 but no singing, humming, or anything we could identify as a voice. 817 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,960 And there's no easy answer for what happened with Jess's recorder 818 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960 as she read aloud the words of an Avalanche victim. 819 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,960 I'm out, beautiful. We are all... 820 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,960 Okay, this is really weird. 821 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,960 We had the device checked out and it is in perfect working order. 822 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:50,960 So, can we conclude whether lost souls from the Wellington train disaster still haunt that mountainside? 823 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:57,960 A reaction to infrasound is a rational explanation for some of the alleged paranormal experiences reported. 824 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,960 But, as Jess points out, it can't explain everything that witnesses have heard and seen. 825 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,960 In light of such a terrible tragedy, 826 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,960 perhaps there's some comfort in believing that the spirit of conductor Pettit 827 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,960 is still looking out for his passengers that remain stranded. 828 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:23,960 Perhaps he's making sure their lives and their loss will not be forgotten and buried by time.